Margaret And Jimmy

Over the past 48 hours, I have not see antsy reference to the curious friendship between Margaret Thatcher and paedophile Jimmy Saville. It seems odd. Saville was after all a house guest of Thatchers over eleven successive New Year celebrations.

Even more curious is that Thatcher was surrounded by Security who presumably vet people who get such access And curious that nobody had seemingly heard the rumours. Every other person at the BBC knew about Saville. And isn’t it odd that none of the assorted police forces who had complaints about Saville reported the complaints to the Whitehall spooks.

After all didn’t MI5 have an office at the BBC?

How on Earth could eleven years pass without some spook whispering in Thatchers ear “We just found out something about Jimmy Saville which we think you should know”? And how on Earth could eleven years pass without “Sir” Jimmy not getting a letter saying “not this year Jimmy”.

The question has often been posed as to how Jimmy Saville, clearly a persistent and dangerous paedophile and rapist escape prosecution and conviction.

Oddly eighteen months ago Jimmy Saville lay in state in Leeds and was given what amounted to a ceremonial funeral in that city.

Perhaps in death…these two old friends can meet up again. They have a lot to talk about.

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28 Responses to Margaret And Jimmy

  1. hoboroad says:

    She also had a table for Tory MP’s at Chequers whose wives had left them during the year due to there adultery. Also of interest is the fact that she read the famous Saint Francis of Assisi speech of a cue card on the steps of Downing Street.

    • I didn’t know that about the adulterous MPs.
      Sometimes MPs resigned to “spend time with their families” and there were even occasions when the families were their own.
      Also question marks about one of her inner circle.

  2. Political Tourist says:

    Have you ever thought maybe the spooks and mince pies did tell Thatcher………

    • Well it’s crossed my mind but surely it would be an unworthy thought.
      Spooks after all are the good guys.
      If we would idly speculate on that, it would mean spooks would be protecting Jimmy Saville which would be illegal and would suggest that there was some kind of paedophile ring working at BBC and possibly beyond in higher society.
      Which would surely leave people open to pressure and blackmail.
      And why on Earth would spooks let that kinda thing pass?
      Besides if newspapers ever found out….and journalists are good guys except of course for that one lone rogue reporter.
      No no no…I can’t even contemplate dirty doings at the very top of government.
      They are British after all.

  3. hoboroad says:

    The Royal family have shown themselves up by the Queen Of England agreeing to attend this funeral. At least this puts an end to the polite fiction that the Queen is above politics. Two of her Prime Ministers funerals she will have attended both have one thing in common both were Tories.

    • Please see the blog on Mark Thatcher which I just posted. I think that his attendance as Chief Mourner at a de facto STATE funeral ….says it all.
      Mrs Windsor could hardly refuse to attend but she will lose a lot of her much heralded dignity by so doing.
      The fact that this funeral …costing £8 million …is at the request of Thatcher herself is outrageous.
      And while pensioners are losing benefits.
      And a massive publicity coup for the Tories.

    • At least she knows Jean Arthur playing Calamity Jane in the classic western was superb.
      But isn’t it interesting that so many of the people in the British entertainment industry are Tories.
      Not just Lloyd Webber (who wrote the theme music for an election campaign) Jeremy Clarkson, “Sir” Terry Wogan, Shirley Bassey are Tories.
      Actually it’s probably truer to say that comedians from working class backgrounds are typically Tory.
      And ThEspians are often Labour.
      But I remember an end of campaign election rally for the Tories which had a lot of show biz people.
      Leslie Crowther, William Roache (Ken Barlow), Jim Davidson…among them.
      Vincent Hill 1960s crooner was one of them.
      Id love to see footage of that rally and see who they all were.

      as a result of Vincent Hill being publicly a Tory, Mrs FitzjamesHorse was extremely annoyed.

  4. hoboroad says:

    The one I could never understand was Kenny Everett.

    • Apparently the excuse for Kenny Everett is that he was naive and essentially non political.
      It lost him credibility with young people and gay people.
      Ultimately there is show biz…..Cilla Black, Jimmy Tarbuck, and Bruce Forsyth golf types…they are Tory.
      And there’s rock and roll like Billy Bragg and Labour.
      William Roache …Ken Barlow is interesting. He is an extreme Tory. But Ken is Labour…and served a week in jail for being a CND march circa 1961.
      The actresses that play Eileen and Fiz are big Labour people.
      Sheesh…I know some daft trivia.

  5. hoboroad says:

    Bob Monkhouse was a Tory. It’s been said that Mick Jagger is a Tory but Thatcher never mentioned him. Didn’t Pete Townsend make an appearance once at a Tory Party Conference fringe event to talk about his drug habit? I believe Jimmy Tarbuck and Bruce Forsyth are both Tories. Ted Rodgers and June Whitfield and Mike Yarwood and Bernie Winters as well.

    • June Whitfield is a guest at the funeral.
      Eric Morcambe was also.
      It’s a “tax” thing. hard to imagine Lester Piggott or Ken Dodd voting Labour.
      To his credit Bob Monkhouse…and it might have been because he was trying to get credibility when he was rehabilitating himself with the new generation….he drew back a little.
      He explained himself that Thatcher was necessary at the time.
      there is something very “establishment” about show biz. A Hierarchy …top of the bill music hall performers all started at the bottom and I think the George Formbys and Norman Wisdoms crave rising up and being accepted by royalty and the rest.
      The whole Royal Variety thing…is a prime example. The old stagers have moved on…ronnie Corbett and Jimmy Tarbuck.
      The fit between the Royalty and the alternative generation is uneasy.

  6. hoboroad says:

    Kirstie Allsop, Glynis Barber, Cilla Black, Michael Brandon, Errol Brown, Janet Brown, Frank Bruno, Judith Chalmers, Joan Collins, Ronnie Corbett, Paul Daniels, Jim Davidson, Ken Dodd, Lynsey de Paul, Julian Fellowes, Bryan Ferry, Freddie Forsyth, James Gaddas, Tony Hadley, Nicky Haslam, Matt Jay, Nanette Newman, Bruce Oldfield, Zandra Rhodes, Anneka Rice, Tim Rice, Phil Spencer, Peter Stringfellow, Jimmy Tarbuck, Marco Pierre White, Anthony Worral Thompson, Bill Wyman

    Neil Adams, Mark Bosnich, Ian Botham, Trevor Brooking, Bob Champion, Tony Cottee, Garth Crooks, Susanne Dando, Steve Davis, Nick Faldo, Graham Gooch, Jimmy Greaves, Brian Jacks, Clive Lloyd, Terry Neil, Fred Trueman

    • Is this a list from the rally?
      The ones I knew to be public supporters are
      Janet Brown (Maggie impersonator had a sideline in after dinner speaking at Tory constituency dinners) Joan Collins, Paul Daniels, Jim Davidson, Julian Fellowes, Bryan FErry (big hunt supporter) Freddie Forsyth, James Gaddas (actor from Corrie and stood as a candidate) Bruce Oldfield,Andrew Worral Thompson. Ian Botham, Trvor Brooking, Nick Faldo, Jimmy Greaves.

      The cricketers are no surprise.
      And the jockeys and horse trainers are no surprise….they used to like cash in hand.
      Actually cash in hand is a recurring theme.
      A lot of entertainment and horse racing figures rushed to make settlements with the Tax An in the wake of Ken Dodd and Lester Piggott.

  7. hoboroad says:

    Iain Dale’s old blog.

  8. hoboroad says:

    Here’s Cilla and Ronnie out to dinner with Jim Davidson and is that the Chairman of a football club that recently asked for a minutes silence in honour of Maggie Thatcher I see?

  9. hoboroad says:

    Savile is mentioned in Jean Seaton’s book on the BBC but with reference to the fact that pretty much the only discussion about him within the BBC board of governors was how to ration Margaret Thatcher’s appearances on his radio and television programmes.

    • It will take years for truth to come out, inquiries and deaths of people will show that the Tories were up to their necks in it.
      Its an old cliche that Labour sleaze is money. And Tory sleaze is sex.
      The T Dan Smith and Profumo Scandals.
      Paedophiles is a whole new thing.

  10. hoboroad says:

    Lord Bramall stood down as a cross-bench peer in 2013 although he has kept his title.

    In 2006 it was reported he hit fellow peer Lord Janner after an argument in the House of Lords. The matter was dropped after he apologised.

  11. hoboroad says:

    Lord Bramell joined Mountbatten’s staff in 1963.

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